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It's Time To Trust Teachers with the Internet: A Conversation with Meg Ormiston


Meg Ormiston: "If you're doing nothing but blocking all day long, teachers are going to give up using technology."

For Meg Ormiston, it's a wonder sometimes that teachers don't just give up. Restrictive Internet policies in schools, coupled with unresponsive IT departments and beleaguered administrators, present teachers with a nearly impossible situation: They're being pressured to incorporate 21st century teaching and learning into their classrooms, but they're not being allowed to use the tools they need to do that. They're being hamstrung. And so are their students.

Ormiston has served as a curriculum coach, school board member, conference presenter, professional development specialist, and grant facilitator. Currently, she consults with schools on incorporating technology into the classroom to reach 21st century learners. And that requires her to continue speaking up for teachers who aren't yet trusted with Internet access in their classrooms.

In this interview, Ormiston told us that while there are legitimate barriers to using some Internet technologies in classrooms, the justifications in many cases are much flimsier. Bandwidth might be too limited for the widespread use of streaming video, granted, but in a lot of cases, the reasons for the restrictive policies aren't very clear. Schools seem simply not to trust teachers, the very individuals they've hired for their training and certification as professionals formally qualified to care for children in a classroom setting.

And, as she observed, if schools by this point can't trust teachers to decide whether a given Web site is appropriate for their students, how can they trust those teachers in the classroom at all?

Ormiston will be speaking at three sessions on these topics at the FETC 2011 conference, being held Jan. 31 through Feb. 3, 2011 in Florida: "Playing School or Preparing for Life?" and "Bringing the World to Your Classroom Using Web 2.0 Tools."

THE Journal: A lot of schools are blocking access to the Internet--especially to social networking sites and resources. Why is this happening?

Meg Ormiston: I'm a parent, and I think it's important for us to protect children. But we have to look at teaching and learning too. We want to keep kids safe, and I'm all good with locking pornography. But we have to remember to teach responsible computing. That includes social networking. We have to help students make good choices with networking resources and sites they visit and help them know right from wrong. We can't blanket-block everything because that's also blocking learning.

One of the examples I use is YouTube. Yes, there are inappropriate things on YouTube. But there are such rich wonderful learning opportunities too. As budgets continue to be slashed, YouTube offers a lot of learning opportunities. Should we filter and check them? Absolutely. Nobody should be trusted in the classroom with students if they can't also be trusted to use YouTube appropriately.

When I started teaching, we had to make sure to preview videos and filmstrips before we showed them. Teachers need to be the filters to make sure that what's on YouTube is appropriate. But that means they need to be given the opportunity to access YouTube for teaching and learning.

THE Journal: What's the hold-up on unblocking filters?

Ormiston: For some schools, it's a legitimate problem of bandwidth. There's just not enough network power coming into those buildings for kids to be streaming videos. In those situations I can see restricting it for certain times. Or in some buildings they limit it during their peak hours. I understand the bandwidth issues.

Another issue is that people who are not certified educators are making decisions about what is blocked. Or a lot of times, it's the piece of software that the district has purchased that makes the blanket decisions. Social networking on many tools will be blocked. That will cut out all opportunities to use images on Flickr, VoiceThread, Blogster.... A piece of software is running the Web filter and blocking full categories, which means we're blocking a lot of learning because of the label of "social networking." Most of the software has the ability to overwrite the filter. But some districts don't give anybody the opportunity to overwrite it.

But I know it can be done. On the flip side, I [work with] one high school where all that they're blocking is Facebook and the whole category of pornography. Everything else is up to the discretion of the educators.

THE Journal: What's the opportunity that's lost when schools are more restrictive?

Ormiston: If you're doing nothing but blocking all day long, teachers are going to give up using technology. If I were to keep hitting the wall again and again, I'd give up. I'd go back to the tools that I had before the computer was around. It's a turn-off for teachers. When I go into those districts, I hear, "You can't get it here." They give up. And so would I.

But the biggest part of the problem is that when students go home, it's the Wild West out there. There's no blocking in most cases. There's no filtering. There's usually not an adult to help them make good choices. And they haven't been instructed in the schools about what's appropriate and what's not. That's my biggest fear. We're letting kids wander around on the prairie with no guidance.

THE Journal: So how can an educator make a successful case for opening up access to the Internet?

Ormiston: Unfortunately, this is the worst part. You have to send your teachers home to learn because they can't learn Web 2.0 tools or any of these social networking tools at school--because they're all blocked. Once your teacher goes home to learn, then they have to come back and say, "I'd really like to use this for this purpose. This aligns with my curriculum. This is age appropriate..."

But here's the hard part. Even if those teachers go home and find VoiceThread, what then? Many teachers don't even have anybody in their building to go [to]. They might be able to fill out a form for a service desk or ask the principal, who's already overwhelmed, but a lot of them don't have a point person to say, "This is really useful, and I'd like to use it with my class." They don't have any options. If I were them, I would give up.

Another thing:. These tools are constantly changing. We need to be able to get to the locking and unlocking at the moment you need it for teaching and learning. [In] one of my districts it takes two and a half weeks to get an answer about whether the site will be open or not. Most people just give up the site because they know the answer is going to come back from some central office, and the answer is going to be no. So we give up. Then somebody comes with questions: "Why aren't we using more technologies in the schools? Why isn't it making difference?"

What's crazy is that I can walk into a high school and have a student show me how to get around any filter put up. So the students know the work-arounds, and the teachers' hands are tied.

THE Journal: What needs to be in place for a school to open up access?

Ormiston: A lot of really focused professional development. It's not enough to say, "Woo-hoo! We're open today!" We've locked teachers down for so long, they need to know what's appropriate, what's not, what to preview, what the best sites are for getting started if they're new to this. And we need professional development not only for our teachers but also for our administrators.

THE Journal: Why the administrators?

Ormiston: The leader has to have the vision to make change. Many leaders don't have deep technical backgrounds. So when the expert in the IT department says, "No, no, no," it's hard for the school administrator to say, "Yes, yes, yes," if [he or she] hasn't been exposed to social networking sites or to the possible teaching and learning opportunities. The easy answer is to block everything. Then we'll be safe. But we're really not.

THE Journal: Say the filtering is lifted. Suddenly, the riches of the kingdom are available to educators. What should they do next?

Ormiston: A tiered approach is great. Most of the filtering software is tiered. Let's start off by opening access for teachers, and let them explore and begin to figure out how to use YouTube appropriately in the classroom. Let's see what happens. Everything is going to be fine. Then let's start changing permissions for students.

When I'm working with a blocked and filtered school, and they're starting to think about coming out of it, I often recommend opening one site a month or one site a week, if they can handle it: "This week we're going to try Wordle and make tag clouds.... We're all going to try VoiceThread...."

THE Journal: Do you think you'll ever be able to stop talking about this stuff?

Ormiston: Sometimes I just say, can't we talk about something else? I feel like it's so old. When are we going to snap out of it? When are we going to realize that you can block and filter until you're blue. But [then kids] open up their smart phones, and there's not a block or filter, and they're sitting in your schools.

Education is the key. Leadership is absolutely the key. The leader has to understand why this is important, then advocate to others [on behalf of] the faculty and students that this is about teaching and learning today.

People say to me, you don't understand the network, and I keep saying, no, I don't. I focus on teaching and learning. I'll say to IT people, you'd be happiest if nobody ever came to school, because then there'd be nobody to block, filter, cause problems, hack.... They'd have nothing to worry about.

But this is about a living, breathing, and ever-changing community. Every time we get one of these new tools, we have an opportunity to engage students. That's what it's about. It's not about locking things behind the gate. It's about appropriate engagement. We have to find the tools that we can embed into curriculum that students will really enjoy. They do not enjoy another packet of papers. They want multimedia. They crave the opportunity to work with other people--and other people outside of our schools. With a lot of these tools, we have that opportunity--of course, with supervision.

We lose so many opportunities when a network person says, "No Skyping in our school district...."

Ormiston will be speaking at the FETC 2011 conference in January and February 2011 in Orlando, FL. Further information can be found on the FETC's site here.

Comments

Fri, Nov 25, 2011 Tony Richardson Iowa

I agree with Tom Clark. There are many out there like Meg making money talking about things they simply do not understand.

Tue, May 3, 2011 Ann Kansas

The content provider for the grant - the Institute for Excellence and Ethics (IEE) "points" schools to the video that goes with each unit and lesson. It seems that we are OK with copyright issues AS LONG as they download directly from the Internet. BUT...because of the bandwidth issues and the time that it takes to download the video - that's not possible. Teachers have been grabbing the video clips on their home computers (or during their planning time at school) saving it to a jump drive or to their desktop and then showing them during their classes. Several of our English teachers believe that this may be in violation of copyright. Is it? What are the rules????

Fri, Dec 17, 2010 Leader

Coach, first off, parents are extremely important to a child's education. However, without teachers motivating and teaching our children, our society would fail. It takes a lot of discipline to sit behind a computer and learn a subject. Sounds to me that the educational system failed you and you are bashing the system. Are there bad teachers? Of course, just like there are bad politicians, cooks, Doctors, coaches, bus drivers, etc.... Online schools are failing all of the country, wake up, smell the coffee, and if you do not like the school system, do something to change it instead of complain about it. What a loser!

Mon, Dec 13, 2010 Dan Roscoe, IL

Debbie MA, For a social network extension to the classroom that does not require students to have email addresses, check out Edmodo. http://www.edmodo.com/

Thu, Dec 9, 2010 Parent of 4

To the commenter named Coach: Arrogance!?! How is it arrogant to point out that technology is something that should only be used in the home with parents? Further, how can anyone believe that technology shouldn't play a vital role in almost every school subject? Remember... there was a time when only textbooks were used buy teachers as well, access to technology is no different. Folks need to accept that technology is no longer a subject matter taught down the hall; it is an integral part of everyday life. Computers will never replace good teachers; plain and simple. I would hate to see the first class of kids that received their entire education from a "drill and kill" style of teaching and learning. Studies show that has very little benefit to the student (100% focus on test scores is a whole other disaster for another conversation). While it is true that no single teacher will ever contain more knowledge than a computer, no single computer will ever be able to guide a young student through all of this information. Teacher now can focus on helping kids to make personal connections and reach new levels of understanding all of this content. Teachers today are more important than ever before. Due to the amount of information on the web and ease of access to it, teachers can thankfully no longer be the holder of all the facts. This is a very good thing.... they can now take on skills like teaching kids how to be good learners and weaving through all of the innrelevant and false information on the web. All that said, it is ridiculous when IT Departments handcuff a school district with their access to modern tools. I understand that their jobs are now rapidly changing with the tidal wave of educational resources on the web; but their job is still to support the staff, not to dictate it. Teachers have had to make major changes in their teaching styles to accommodate the needs of the modern student, so now should the IT Departments. The difference here is that while the 21st century student forces stubborn teachers to change, there seems to be no catalyst that forces the IT folks to change. The more you deny access to the on-line world in school, the more irrelevant you make school to be.

Thu, Dec 2, 2010 MM Central Indiana

I agree wholeheartedly. Why are we fighting the use of technology? My district blocks EVERYTHING...of course, we can submit sites for "review" but I have submitted the same educational website for review since August of 2006. I have the emails to prove it. It's pathetic. If teachers can't be trusted to be professional enough to preview a video on youtube before showing it to a class, there is no way I want them teaching my children. I am more frustrated by this than any other aspect at my school. Stop binding my hands. Let me teach, and treat me like a professional! I've never given you any reason to believe I'll act as anything less.

Thu, Dec 2, 2010 Debbie MA

I have had difficulty using social networking sites and online collaboration in my school because the ones I am familiar with require students to sign up for an account with an e-mail. Many of my 7th graders either don't have e-mail or don't use their e-mails enough to know their addresses. We are not allowed to set up e-mail accounts for our students. How are other school systems dealing with this issue?

Thu, Dec 2, 2010 Florida

As another poster mentioned, there may not be a fire here; I'm not sure how widespread this problem is. In our district--which I don't think is exceptional in this regard--a tiered approach is used. Students can't access YouTube, for example, but teachers are free to. I'm not aware of the denial of a single timely request from a teacher to unblock a site for educational purposes.

Thu, Dec 2, 2010 Florida

As another poster mentioned, there may not be a fire here; I'm not sure how widespread this problem is. In our district--which I don't think is exceptional in this regard--a tiered approach is used. Students can't access YouTube, for example, but teachers are free to. I'm not aware of the denial of a single timely request from a teacher to unblock a site for educational purposed.

Wed, Dec 1, 2010 Coach

What amzaing arrogance! Students have been using Web 2.0 technologies without the help of teachers for years. Teachers are not the only educators in a childs life. Parents and family are the biggest differentiator in the success of a child not a teacher. In fact most teachers are clueless at using these tools. Teachers need to focus on improving educating students in reading, math, science and langauge arts. Educational software like SuccessMaker is now providing a better means of educating students than teachers. Schools using Educational Software are seeing dramatic increases in test scores. Online schools and courses are the future of education.

Wed, Dec 1, 2010

No doubt, lots of tools on the internet, lots of media content, lots of reasons to drop filters, but mobile devices etc., etc. What I don't see are: -strategies for integrating technology into curriculum any meaningful, pedagogical way. Letting teachers loose on the internet to try any and all tools available is not a strategy. -minimum tech standards for teachers that require demonstrated competence with technology -evaluations of teachers technological literacy as a function of job performance -re-engineering of the educational model to accomodate the increased expecation of technolgy use. Teachers have no time for learning technology and the onus is on everything and everyone else (read: IT) to accomodate -a reduced fixation on standardized testing. -reasonable expectations of what technology can and cannot do. Throwing your hands up in the air when technology doesnt work or isnt fixed immediately is unrealistic. -the fundamental changes in education where teachers are not given the option to opt out of using technology. Dropping a filter is nothing more than flipping a switch. Making the systemic changes where teachers are engaged, responsible and accountable for using technology is not so easy. What is your action plan for that?

Wed, Dec 1, 2010 MARTINIAMINC School For Entrepreneurship Portland, Oregon

I agree Meg. We are here for your success: http://www.martiniaminc.com

Wed, Dec 1, 2010 Tom Clark

Wow - IT people must be just awful, as you put it: "I'll say to IT people, you'd be happiest if nobody ever came to school, because then there'd be nobody to block, filter, cause problems, hack.... ". From my perspective as an IT director, you express little regard or concern for things such as CIPA, policy, malware, protection of student data and access to students by those with harmful intent, just to name a few. People in IT simply want to do their very best, keep kids safe and help them learn, just like the teachers.
As a former classroom teacher and now as an IT administrator, I see that IT is often expected to provide high levels access to the tools and resources that students and teachers want, often with little understanding of the potential consequences. Letting the teacher be the filter is not enough. A collaborative approach by educators and IT to first evaluate the educational value along with the potential risks can have big payoffs. This is much more effective than the dismissive approach of us vs. them that your remarks suggest. I have encountered a number of excellent Web 2.0 tools that have also provided unintended exposure to pornographic content or computer malware. To me, use of that tool is not acceptable in the school setting until the user has had some training and can demonstrate how to use it safely. Once you can demonstrate that you have the skills, everyone wins.

Wed, Dec 1, 2010

Where's the fire? You've got a hose, but no fire. Teachers are not asking for filters to be unblocked. Quite the contrary. If the filters come down, then they'd be held responsible for classroom management. Teaching 21st Century Skills? really? We teach to the test, those hallowed standardized tests insisted upon by government. Technology creates a messy environment - who wants that? We've got content to cover!

Wed, Dec 1, 2010 Pamala Clift

Absolutely right. If we claim to be educating our students but fail to give them the tools to ascertain the validity of information they are bombarded with.. then simply... we failed. We can no longer hold exclusivity of information so we better darn well teach how to best discern it. Technology is not going away. We can not put our students in a bottle... good, bad & ugly.. lets explain and guide.

Wed, Dec 1, 2010

Many schools are providing the teachers the support they need. Northside ISD in San Antonio, TX, has full-time Campus Instructional Technologists at each campus to be the liaison between the teacher and the technology. "I'll say to IT people, you'd be happiest if nobody ever came to school, because then there'd be nobody to block, filter, cause problems, hack.... They'd have nothing to worry about." Seriously?!? One data breach, and "IT people" would gladly trade places with you. So, it is okay to allow non-IT certified people to make IT decisions, but not non-education certified people to make educational decisions? I never heard a virus infiltrating a network through filmstrips. As always, communication is key, and neither the teachers nor IT staff should be islands. We are all in this together.

Wed, Dec 1, 2010 Lauren Lek Hayward, CA

I could not agree more with Meg Ormiston! In order to truly prepare students for the 21st Century, and the skills that will be imperative for them to navigate the tools to succeed in any profession, they must have models. Models from teachers, and experiences with using these varied tools for learning, innovation, creativity and productivity. In order to be a citizen in the 21st century, social networking must be leveraged. However, these tools must be brought into the learning space for students to know how to use them. At Moreau Catholic High School www.moreaucatholic.org, our philosophy is one that believes students must engage in these tools while in High School. We filter for content and inappropriate sites. Web 2.0 and Social Networking tools are part of our daily class curriculum. Students use Skype to conference with speakers internationally, they use facebook in AP Art to connect with professionals to critique their work, they use Diigo, Nings, Blogs, Wikis, You Tube, Kiva, Glogster, Voice Thread, and so many others in order to maximize student's learning! Education must bridge the gap between the tools students use for socialization, the tools students use in the classroom for learning, and the tools they will be expected to use professionally. Moreau Catholic High School is a fantastic anomaly! We are an Apple Distinguished School, and pushing learning. Here, it is is not about the technology tools, but rather how the tools can enhance and propel the learning. Check us out on the website. Humbly, Lauren Lek, Principal

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